Turn your season around
Jordan Raynor sits down with Darryl Strawberry, Former MLB All-Star, to talk about the remarkable story of how he went from a drug-addicted baseball star to evangelist, how Darryl submitted himself to the indirect mentorship of Billy Graham, and the power of praying mothers.
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[00:00:05] JR: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Call to Mastery. I’m Jordan Raynor. This is a podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of God and the good of others. Every week, I bring you a conversation with a Christ follower who is pursuing world-class mastery of their vocation. We talked about their path to mastery, their daily habits, and how their faith influences their work.
Today’s guest needs little introduction. We’re talking with Darryl Strawberry, who played 17 seasons of Major League Baseball. He had eight all-star game appearances, four world series titles and a nomination to the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Darryl and I recently sat down, we talked about his remarkable story of how he went from a drug-addicted baseball star to an evangelist, a preacher today. We talked about how Darryl submitted himself to an indirect mentorship from Billy Graham, and we talked a lot about the power of praying mothers and Darryl’s reaction to finding a prayer journal that his mother had filled over years and years of praying for his salvation.
I think you guys are really going to enjoy this conversation with my new friend, Darry Strawberry.
[INTERVIEW]
[00:01:29] JR: Darry Strawberry, former Tampa boy. How are you today my friend?
[00:01:33] DS: I’m doing well, Jordan. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.
[00:01:36] JR: Yeah, absolutely. Hey, my team dug up something I didn’t know about you when we are preparing for this. You’re on the Celebrity Apprentice with Donald Trump in 2010, so I got to ask, what was that like?
[00:01:49] DS: I was. It was pretty cool. It was pretty cool. I was on there with some real characters. It was a lot of fun to get to know a lot of different people and of course, the president, he was really good to me when I was on the show. I got a chance to meet Bret Michaels, who ended up winning that series. I end up coming back after getting fired, coming back to help Bret Michaels and President Trump gave me 25,000 and Bret gave me 25,000 for my charity. So it was a great a time being part of that event.
[00:02:16] JR: That’s fun. So Bret Michaels won. Who else is in the cast that year?
[00:02:19] DS: Sinbad, Sharon Osbourne, quite — I can’t remember some of the other girls that was on there.
[00:02:23] JR: That’s a who’s who cast of characters.
[00:02:25] DS: It was. It was.
[00:02:27] JR: I love it. Well Darryl, listen. You’re legendary for your performance as a baseball player, also known of course for trouble off the field prior to coming to faith in Christ. I actually don’t know the story behind you coming to faith in Christ. What’s the story behind that? How did that happen in your life, Darryl?
[00:02:46] DS: Well, I believe it comes from my mom who was a strong Christian woman who have lived completely right. When I was in the midst of in the height of my career and all my troubles. I was living the heathen life and separated from God, and I just believed that her prayer she laid on her face and she was praying. She died at the age of 55 of terminal breast cancer.
[00:03:07] JR: Wow!
[00:03:07] DS: When we pulled a journal from under her bed, she was praying to God, that God would knock me off my throne. She didn’t care about my baseball career and success. She said, “Save all my kids” and she went onto home to be with the Lord. There we were, stuck, living in sin, separated from God. Then eventually, the encounter comes with God. I had already been saved in ’91 when I got radically saved at a [inaudible 00:03:32] Conference but I never got discipled.
So guess what, I went back to the familiar, a lifestyle of sinning, and lusting and doing all kinds of things. Was separated for years, and then God would eventually use my wife today – Tracy –was my girlfriend at the time. He would use her to lead me back to him and had me for seven years. The seven years of sinning, and growing and being discipled. Then I started the development of who I was and what he had called me for. But it’s a praying mother and it’s a wife — I say, God got a great sense of humor, because he knows I lust after women throughout my baseball career, and putting on a uniform. And he uses two women to straighten me out, you know. That’s pretty impressive of who God is.
[00:04:19] JR: When your mom passed away, you find this prayer journal. What are you thinking as you’re reading through these pages, like what’s going through your mind?
[00:04:26] DS: I’m just crying. I know it was from her faithful prayers that I am the man I am today. There’s no question about it. God hears the prayers of the righteous, but God answers the prayers on his time. My mother prayed for me all those years to save me. Not only I got saved, I got transformed and become an evangelist and traveled 250 times a year preaching. I know that’s completely from my mother being faithful to God of her kids. Not only do I get saved, the whole family get saved.
[00:04:58] JR: You mentioned traveling around 250 times a year preaching. Bring us up to speed. Everyone knows you retired from baseball in ’99. What have you been up to over the last 20 years other than of course, Celebrity Apprentice with Bret Michaels and the president?
[00:05:13] DS: Well, you know, I found this wonderful woman in my life who God sent in my life, is my wife today. We’ve been married for 14 years. We’ve been together for about 21 years. She’s got 21 years of recovery. We met through recovery. I was still struggling, I was still using drugs, shooting dope, smoking crack and she was pulling me out of dope houses in South Florida. I end up struggling and she stayed clean. I end up with over 17 years now in recovery, but she’s got 21. We went on the journey together.
When we started this journey together, Jordan, it was so funny because we had nothing. It was like, I was $3 million in debt, didn’t have a driver’s license. She was pulling me out of drug houses and saying, “God has a plan for your life” and I said, “Why don’t you and that God just leave me here and let me die.” She said, “You are just not that lucky.” There was God using her to bring me back. Little that I know, he would bring me all the way back and he would bring me to discipline and sit me for seven years of discipleship before he released me to start going out and being in the public eye. I’m really thankful for who God is, and his grace and his mercy. I mean, his grace is efficient for all of us. His strength is made perfect. I witness that as 2 Corinthians 12:9, that talks about that and it’s the grace of God that he has over all our life, no matter how far we fall down in the pit.
God is always willing to take one out of the pit and put him into a pulpit for his glory. I’m no different in those that were in the Bible that had issues, like Moses, Jonah and all of them had struggles, Peter, all of them had struggles and God still used them mightily and that’s what he does. He’s so merciful for you, that he has this grace over you, that he will wait for you. That’s what I love about him. He will wait for you. So if anybody is out there listening and think they’re too far and that God forgot about them. He never forgets anybody. He just waits for you. He waits for you and waits for the right time to utilize you for his good.
[00:07:07] JR: You’re one of my favorite examples of somebody who’s just totally transformed, totally new creation, right? Your retired from baseball. You’ve been preaching for years. Traveling around the world preaching the gospel. You’ve honed your craft as a speaker, as a writer, as a storyteller. I’m curious, you’re clearly mastering this art of public speaking and preaching. Previously, you mastered the craft of baseball. I’m curious what you see as the parallels. What are the commonalities that it takes to master those two very different disciplines?
[00:07:41] DS: That’s so good, Jordan. Because most people would never ask that question and to be able to master those, you have to be very disciplined and you have to be confident in who you are. In baseball, you have to be confident in who you are. In Christ, you have to be confident in who you are. In baseball, you got to be very disciplined, where you got to train yourself, you got to go workout by yourself, you got to go run bases by yourself, being in the park by yourself, smell the grass, smell the air. In the Bible, you got to be yourself. You got to saturate yourself with the word, you got to turn the television off, you got to turn the cellphone off, you got to go hide in a dark room when you pray. But you hide in the room with God, and you listen and you listen to the Holy Spirit who’s going to teach you all things in remembrance of who Jesus is and he’s going to teach you the Bible, and he’s going to teach you scriptures.
The Lord will say, “Go read Billy Graham books.” I started reading who Billy Graham was. He was an evangelist, the greatest evangelist probably that ever stepped the face of the earth, winning so many souls. God says, “Study him and he’s going to show you what an evangelist is and what an evangelist does.” I started studying Billy Graham and Billy Graham’s books started teaching me about scriptures, how to retain scriptures and how Christians don’t know scriptures and that’s why Christians are not living a victorious life. Because if you know the scriptures, you live a victorious life.
[00:09:01] JR: Billy Graham almost became a mentor, right, through these books and really — so you like really honed in, like studied his life. He’s almost a coach to you as you started this work, right?
[00:09:13] DS: Yes, a complete coach. I mean, it was just like, I was intrigued with what he did as a preacher. He preached the gospel. He didn’t come across as one that wanted to sound good, like most people standing in pulpit today. Not sound good, but no power. An enemy knows if you don’t have power to stand up and preach, he knows that he could deceive you. Billy Graham, he never could be deceived because the man preached with power and he preach with conviction of the Holy Spirit that will convict us to change, to come back to Christ and that God will forgive us. I think that is what has gotten away, and I saw myself preaching like that.
I saw a lot of people didn’t like my style of preaching because they looked at me like, “You preach with such boldness and conviction.” A lot of churches was around before, they said, “Well, we don’t come and preach about those type of things anymore, like sin. We preach about love and grace.” I was like, “How do people get well if we’re just going to preach love and grace? Yes, we know God’s love and grace, but how do people get well if they don’t repent? You don’t get well if you don’t come back and ask God for forgiveness.”
Billy Graham taught me that way and that’s the kind of boldness I preach within. I don’t preach with — I mean, it’s practical preaching, practical application. It’s from a place where I come from. God brought me from a place of death and he brought me into life. When you see life, you know that you no longer play with death and you know death is real, which most people probably don’t understand and don’t think is real. But if they’ll continue to live separated from God, and I just didn’t really want to live that way anymore, Jordan. I really want to just live a different way according to the biblical textbooks.
[00:10:55] JR: Yeah. We don’t see ourselves as enemies of God, but that’s what we were, pre-Christ. Romans makes us crystal clear, right? And we love to talk about God’s love and grace, and he is that. But there’s a reason why needed grace. We were his enemy, right? There is wrath from a righteous God; otherwise, he’s not righteous. Amen?
[00:11:14] DS: Amen, brother. Come on. I mean, I think that’s what so many of us forget about. We don’t understand. He doesn’t have to save us first.
[00:11:22] JR: Amen. Amen.
[00:11:22] DS: Okay? But he does, he takes us right where we’re at, all the broken pieces of who we are and he saves us. And he brings us to this place where not only does he save us, he wants to use you when you allow yourself to be persistent to go after him and surrender yourself daily. I mean, there’s a surrendering part to that process that I was going through with daily. Guess what? When you start surrendering yourself, and persistent about God and you start talking about the Gospel, a lot of people are going to walk away from you.
Listen, I had a lot of people that I knew when I played baseball. But when I started talking about Jesus, boy, did they turn and go the other way, did they not speak, pick up the phone and speak to me anymore? Yeah. What I’m saying there was my surrendering part was to Christ. I was okay with all those people that so called them friends because I had a uniform on and we played together and we did a lot of things together. But when I became this man of faith, all of a sudden, I’ve changed on the inside but I’m still the same, I’m still a person. I’m not going to change from the person who I am and everything as your friend, but they have a tendency to not wanting to be around you. Not that I was preachy around them. They saw me standing on a different platform, instead of hitting home runs and slapping high five and low fives. And they saw me winning souls and they knew it was real and they knew it was something different about me.
[00:12:41] JR: Hey, I’m curious. What does a typically day look like for you? From the moment you wake up, to the moment you go to bed, what is a typical day in a life of Darry Strawberry look like these days?
[00:12:50] DS: What typical day looks for me when I’m at home is, when I wake up, I wake up with worship. I like to hear worship music. I’m a worship type of guy. I need to enter in with God. I just need him. I mean, I know he’s been good to me, Jordan, but at the same time, I just need to be in the presence of him. I need to feel him. I need to feel the power of his presence come over me when I turn on the worship music. Some morning, some days, I could just sit there and I could just weep, because I look back and I think about how grateful I am.
When I post something on my social media, my Instagram or something like that. I think back, I think back of all the goodness of — I posted picture the other day and I woke up and I was just crying. It was Thanksgiving Day, to be thankful and I was crying. I posted this picture about me and my mother and I was just saying thank you. I’m not going to say much, but I just need to say thank your always praying for me. I am who I am today. I’m victorious in Christ. I’m living a freedom that I never could live. I wasn’t living this freedom when I was rich and famous. I was always this poor, this struggle, this bondage. But now, you know, I’m not that rich and famous baseball player no more, but I have such a rich life in Christ and so free.
That’s the freedom that you come to and I just was worshiping God and the tears was just flowing down my face because my mother is in heaven and I’m just thinking about her. It’s you that prayed over me that has given me the opportunity to be the man that I am today. Not a baseball player, but a man.
[00:14:20] JR: You get done listening to worship. What’s next on your schedule?
[00:14:22] DS: Well, next on my schedule is probably getting a cup of coffee after that.
[00:14:25] JR: Yeah. There you go. Amen.
[00:14:28] DS: I find in that place and then I kind of settle in because throughout the day, because my wife is usually not here. She’s a pastor at the church that we attend here in Missouri, so she’s usually gone to work and stuff like that. I pretty much when I’m not traveling, my worship, coffee and there it is. I go sit in the family room and there it is, I go open the Bible and I just meditate there and — whatever the Holy Spirit wants to send me to. He can send me to a scripture, just to eat on and meditate for about the day, about what it’s all about and what today is going to bring. When I don’t have a lot to do like winter time, I don’t even get out of the house. I stay on my PJs all day.
[00:15:08] JR: I love it. You mentioned a few minutes ago, you mentioned this word freedom and I think you mentioned the word bondage. I’m really curious, you know, you see these star athletes or star CEOs, whatever. And I think a lot of people could be jealous of that lifestyle. But a lot of times, that’s enslaving. Fame and riches can enslave you and can become idols. I’m curious if you’ve experienced that. If you look back in the season of life and see the wealth, and see the fame as a bit of a burden and something that enslaved you during that season of life.
[00:15:40] DS: It did. It really did enslave me that part of season of life. Because all you do is accumulate more stuff, all you do is buy more stuff to make you happy, to try to satisfy the soul. Soul more than anything. So many of us do it. I don’t care how wealthy you are, I don’t care how famous you are, none of it belongs to you and none of it is going with you. When you go back to the book of Ecclesiastes and you read about King Solomon who talks about it. He had everything, everything the wisest, the riches man in Jerusalem, had everything that a man could want. But at the end of the day, he said, “It’s meaningless under the sun without God. Why did I leave God? Why did I go write the Book of Proverbs of wisdom and knowledge and then I go back to write this book that’s full of sorrows, of disappointments of my own self?” Because that’s what truly happens at the end of our life, when you look around and you have all the stuff, and you achieved all these things.
And of course, they’re going to talk about you for what? A week when you pass away and then they move on. You’re forgotten. You’re not forgotten by your family members and stuff like that. But a society has already forgotten about you and they move on to the next new thing and everything. So yes, I mean, accumulating all these things that I accumulated in life, I thought I had it all, I thought it was all important. And I did, I lived that life and I’m glad that I got to see clear before I enter that place of death, that Christ was the ultimate dream of a life for one to come and know when we all have a chance to get a chance to know him before we leave here. And most people will never get that chance because of all that stuff that they have around them, keeps them separated from who God really is.
[00:17:15] JR: Yeah. I’m curious and this is a big hypothetical question, right? Let’s say you got a chance to do it all again. You got to restart your career in baseball. But this time when you started, you’re following Jesus. You are truly apprenticing yourself to his Lordship. What do you think would have been different about your work as baseball player had you been following Jesus from day one?
[00:17:38] DS: I would have took the money and stuff that I had and I would use it to build a kingdom. I would use it for educating people who has low education and who has no idea who Christ is. When you go into inner cities, why you think they’re so infected because no one goes in back there and bring about real education. Not just dumping a bunch of money in there but dumping — you don’t dump money. You can dump projects in there but you got to have some biblical foundation projects that’s going to make a difference, that’s going to sustain people and take people to higher level.
The education of Christ is so richer than any education that one could get. You don’t realize it until you actually open a bible for yourself. If I had to do it all over again, my foundation would be kingdom building. My foundation will be winning souls, winning the loss, the hurting, the ones that’s been rejected and the ones been left for dead. That’s who Christ calls us to go back and win, because the rich already have what they have. They don’t see God. They see the riches of the land, but they don’t understand that the kingdom is far richer than this land here. They don’t understand that Matthew 6:33 is real. “See ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness, then all these things will be added unto you.” He’s talking about something far greater than what we live here. He’s talking about his kingdom that you get to seek after and you get to bring others to that place, to know Jesus and have a relationship with Christ himself.
[00:19:04] JR: Amen. You are still playing baseball when you came to faith in Christ. Is that right?
[00:19:09] DS: I was. I found Christ in ’91 when I signed the biggest deal of my life as a free agent.
[00:19:16] JR: Interesting. I’m curious. What changed about your work after that point? Other than maybe how you stewarded your wealth. Did anything change about how you played the game, how you interacted with players? What did that look like?
[00:19:27] DS: Yeah. I was a different person and the media was like really mocking me and say I didn’t have the fire in me no more because I had played like —
[00:19:34] JR: Oh, interesting.
[00:19:34] DS: I had played like eight years, and they said, “He’s got into religion now and he’s a different person, he’s a different player, he’s much softer, he’s talking different, he’s saying things a different way.” Because I used to be — I was very confident when I was before Christ. But in Christ, I was still confident, I just wasn’t boasting about it, I guess, anymore.
[00:19:58] JR: Interesting. Yeah, you’re boasting your weaknesses, right? Like Paul says.
[00:20:01] DS: Yes, exactly.
[00:20:03] JR: Yeah, I love that. Darryl, you’ve had a lot of challenges in life. Some that you’re responsible for, but a lot that you’re not, right? Like cancer, colon cancer. I’m curious what you’ve learned about God and his character, having fought through some of those trials. Not what you’ve learned about yourself but what you’ve learned about him.
[00:20:20] DS: God’s character is amazing. I think people don’t take the time out to learn from some of the things that happen to them, how good God really is. I think about it because I had addiction problem for a long time, and I ended up in the Florida State Prison with a T17169, and that’s a number and did 11 months in the Florida State Prison. God was doing for me what I couldn’t do for myself. Had I stayed out, I probably would have been dead and had I not gotten locked up. God allowed me to get locked up.
I went through cancer twice. I had cancer twice and lost my left kidney in my second surgery. I always say, God has a great sense of humor. He has a great sense of humor of stopping us, slowing the process one life down to be able to come in, to be able to maneuver his way in. Since you can’t come to him, he’s going to come to you. That’s what I love about it, Jordan. See, a lot of people don’t understand that. When he knows that you belong to him, you have to belong to him because I was already born again. It wasn’t like I wasn’t born again. It was just that I have fallen away. But at the same time, he moves his way in in such a way.
You think about like Job. Job went through — Job was righteous and he went through. An enemy came and he just took everything. God said, “You can touch everything, but you can’t have a soul.” I think that’s the same thing some time in our lives. God said you could take everything from it. You could do whatever you want, but you cannot touch a soul, because at the end I’m going to use him. Job was so faithful and he stayed faithful. That’s the same thing that happened to me. I stayed faithful even in the midst of being hurt, and being ripped off of whatever it was. I still stayed faithful into who God is and I think that’s the key right there. Job ended up getting a double portion because of his faith.
I end up getting restored back 100-fold, a totally different person and just epistle of Christ. The Bible was just like written not with ink but in spirit and truth down inside of me, scriptures are down inside of me on my belly. People go, “How do you know so many scriptures?” I say, “Well, they are in my belly. I mean, I spend time with the Holy Spirit, he teaches me, he saturates myself, he leaves the word inside of me because I hear what he’s saying.”
God is so incredible. I think we miss the boat of really knowing who he is until you actually enter in with him, stop being on the other side like most people. I didn’t want to be a hypocrite no more, Jordan. I didn’t want to straddle that fence and just know his name was Jesus but I didn’t know his power was great.
[00:22:48] JR: Amen. We’re recording this towards the end of 2020, challenging year for a lot of our listeners. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people have been reading Job more frequently this year. This has been a tough year for work. I know a lot of our listeners suddenly lost their jobs. Business owners have lost revenue, whatever. What advice do you have for them? You’re publishing this book, Turn Your Season Around. Pretty apt title coming into 2021. I’m curious what advice you have for our listeners who are looking for 2021 to be more fruitful year in ministry and in work.
[00:23:24] DS: Yeah. Little did I know that it would be a season of Turn Your Season Around. I was wondering why the Holy Spirit had gave me a title like that when I was asking, “What’s the title of my book?” When I started writing the book, I was writing the book before the pandemic even came, and then all of a sudden, the title was already in place was Turn Your Season Around: How God Transforms Your Life. Little did we know that it would be a season where God was going to speak to everyone, not just some people but he was going to speak to a nation and saying, “It’s time for you guys to turn your season around and let me transform your life.” Because everybody’s looking to man, man, man to fix the problem here and it can’t. It’s impossible. Because it’s turned into more of a Sodom and Gomorrah kind of atmosphere, living in a kind of way, acting in a kind of way, doing it in any kind of way. When God told Lot to go and took his family and don’t look back, and his wife turned and looked back and turned into a pillar of salt.
It’s kind of the times that we’re living in now. Everybody just wants to do whatever they want, but God has put a stop on it. Even with a pandemic or whatever happened, it has put a stopped and it’s put a cramp and everybody’s lifestyle to say, “Who’s important? What’s important? Is all this stuff important?” God showed us through this. I mean, I got stronger through the pandemic because I had been traveling. I probably needed some rest and I got so well rested. And I just saturated myself in the word with God and it was just revelation after revelation and God speaking about a stoppage, to stop people. So give them a chance, give them a chance to know that Jesus is a son, Jesus is Lord. That one day he’s going to come back. All this you see here is going to be just like it is, stopped, and nobody is going to gave nowhere to go and nothing to do.
But who are you as a believer? Do you believe what the Bible says or do you believe what the news is telling you? I think so many of us has gotten so far off on the natural instead of the supernatural because one thing I do know that God is not natural, he’s supernatural. He does supernatural things and he puts us in a place where there’s a season that we all have ended up in, that has to be turned around.
[00:25:41] JR: I love that. Now, that’s a good reminder of heading into 2021. Those of us who are looking to turn seasons around in our career, the key is Christ. The key is staying focused on the work that he’s called us to do, which is to create, and to work, and to build for his kingdom. So thank you for reminding us of that. Hey, Darryl. Three questions we wrap up every conversation with. Number one, what books do you tend to recommend or gift most frequently to others?
[00:26:06] DS: Well, I try to give away little devotion books. I think it’s more important to have is a daily devotion for people. Those kinds of books, I dive into a lot of those. Like I said, I’m a really big fan of Billy Graham. I never met him but I saw his crusades and I’ve been to his library down there in Charlotte. It’s just such an incredible place and he got so many different books.
[00:26:27] JR: Do you remember any of the names of the Billy Graham’s biographies that you read way back when? I’d love to read one.
[00:26:33] DS: He had a book that has a lot of quotes. It’s got a lot of subjects like salvation, like grace and then he dives in and he tells you the meaning of them. I think that’s why the Bible is so clear about how — it talks about my people perish because of lack of knowledge. They lack knowledge and understanding of what grace is, what salvation is, what hope is, what this is and what that is. I know when I dove into him, I was just like so puzzled. I was just like, “Man, this is so real. This is so what we all deal with from a daily life, not knowing because we don’t really feed ourselves the right things. We feed our things in so many other things,” and there’s a lot of people that write great books. A lot of speakers and people who do all kind of different things write great books and their books are powerful too. But I find spiritual books are more telling of right now, of where we at and what we’re dealing, and who you are and how to face it.
I think that’s what Billy Graham helped me do learn how to face reality of where we at and what we’re doing. I didn’t really know who he was. I mean, I knew who he was but when I saw his crusades, I was like, “That is the gospel. That is what the gospel looks like right there and that’s what we need in this country today.”
[00:27:48] JR: Who would you most like to hear on this podcast, talking about how their faith influences their work? Somebody who is just really exceptional of what they do vocationally and loves Jesus. Who would you like to hear talk about these topics?
[00:28:03] DS: Wow! There’s a lot of guys that I have a lot of respect for, pastors that I got a chance to meet. Greg Laurie, he’s a great pastor and hearing him talk about his faith and leadership. [Chris Jackson 00:28:14], the other one, he’s a great leader of our time and generation.
[00:28:18] JR: Oh, yeah.
[00:28:19] DS: Just like people like Jack Graham, those people, Jentezen Franklin. I like people who are very comfortable and established and not looking for platforms. They have platforms. We’ve got so many young pastors who want platforms and they don’t understand. If you’re not prepared for a platform, it’s just like a baseball player. If you’re not prepared for that job, the devil is going to strangle you in it. It’s no joke and it’s the same thing if you’re a ball player. If you’re not ready like some of these other guys when you come to be the best, they’re going to surpass you. You’ll never going to be as good as they are because you’re not ready and you have to be ready for these things. I like guys that’s been ready, that’s been seasoned, that’s been through this a long time and they actually live it. They live their faith out to show us what it really looks like.
[00:29:06] JR: I love that. All right. Last question. You’re talking to an audience of people who love Jesus and want to do great work that makes him famous. What one piece of advice do you want to leave them with, Darryl?
[00:29:17] DS: Don’t ever make it about you. Always keep and own the symbol of the cross of calvary. When we understand the symbol of the cross, Jesus hanging on that cross and he shed his blood on that cross for all of us, not some of us, for all of us. Then he went to the tomb, then early Sunday morning, he got out from the tomb. What does that tell you about Jesus? That tells you he’s great. No one else is like him. You or me or anybody else, we’ll never going to get out when we die. He died and got up and he was resurrected. When he got resurrected, he got resurrected, he was resurrected with all power. That means he was able to do great things more than you can ever imagine and that we could ever think about that he can do still today and still doing it in peoples’ lives. He’s always going to be the savior and he’s always going to be there to love the lost.
Remember, it’s about loving the lost. Those that pretend that they have it all together and live the fancy life down and nothing’s never going to touch down. Death is coming to all. No one gets away from death. Your day, God will call your name. Just remember that when he calls your name, you want him to be able to say, “Well done my good and faithful servant.”
[00:30:27] JR: Amen. Darryl, I want to commend you for running the race well, for allowing the Lord to turn your life around in such a powerful way. It’s such a testimony to his grace, to his goodness, to his great glory. Guys, Darryl’s out with a new book, Turn Your Season Around. It’s on sale wherever books are sold. Darryl, thank you so much for spending the time with us today.
[00:30:48] DS: Thank you so much, Jordan. I appreciate you having me here.
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